Obviously, our democracy is in good hands.I'm sure that when citizens around the world catch a glimpse of that exchange, they'll realize that freedom is on the march!

What the hell was that?

So everyone in the SAIS school at Hopkins must be scratching their heads right now (and also thinking "what was I thinking for coming to the school that Wolfowitz used to head...")

Pres. Fredo is detached, delusional and dangerous.

(I think I'm paraphrasing Nancy Pelosi)

Further evidence that BushBot doesn't have a clue what is going on is not really news, is it? Next question?

Jesus Fucking Christ on a minibike.

President Horschack.

What a damn idiot.

I'm a delegater. And by that, I mean, I delegate.

The "CEO President" at work....

"I tell ya, I don't get no respect. I told the cab driver, Take me where there's some action, he took me to my house...!"

Holy crap. He's laughing, as if it's acceptable to be so clueless. He really, really doesn't deserve to own this country any longer.

Not only is the pResident not wearing any clothes,
he's not wearing any brain either!

Even Ozzie Osborne speaks better than Bush!

Which reminds me, doesn't Bush sound like
he's strung out on drugs?

I leave you with my favorite quote of Dubya
as imitated by Jon Stewart:

"Heh! Heh! Heh!"

He damn well knows the answer, there is no law for U.S. contractors!

That's right! No law for any of them. They are just like diplomats. They get complete immunity!

They can walk right up to any Iraqi, kill them in cold blood in front of witnesses, and by law passed by our Congress, walk away and not go to jail. Then they can kill again!

Why has no one ever coached this embarrassment to stand up straight?

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you President Beavis.

Pres. Fredo is detached, delusional and dangerous.

(I think I'm paraphrasing Nancy Pelosi)

Not up on the issues, I guess. Why would we expect someone as low on the totem pole to know anything like the question asked. Non-curious George just doesn't have any clue what's going on. Hence, Abu "We do not torture" Ghraib.

Even after five years, it's still pains me to believe that this @#$%^&! clown is the acknowledged leader of the free world. Makes me wish I wasn't a card carrying member of the reality based community. Excuse me while I go injest a whole page of blotter acid...

...and for more bang-your-head-against-the-wall fun, check this out:

"I call them my base...":

http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/04/battling_the_je.php

Actually Kevin, the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdication Act brings DOD contractors outside of the US within the jurisdiction of US courts. They do not, as it turns out, have complete immunity (neither, one might add, do all diplomats). Anyway, Bush did not know this law and essentially said as much. In this regard at least, he was more intelligent than you in that you have loudly proclaimed to know something that, it turns out, was completely untrue.

You can learn about the law here:

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/us_law/detainees/us_torture_laws.htm

I noticed the panting like a dog.

But did everyone also notice that cute head tilting like a dog?

Don't you just want to go up and pet him on the top of his head the way he pets the heads of bald men?

http://tinyurl.com/hge3a

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/15/172151/867

Edited 2.16.06: Took out long URL, replaced with TinyURL equivalent so as not to break the tables.

Oh crap. He's never even heard of the problem.

/actually, to him, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

Hacksaw,

I meant complete diplomatic immunity.

Bush does know the law, he just won't admit the truth for political reasons.

Since you like insults, this one is great:

If you are defending Bush, then In this regard at least, I am more intelligent than you in that you have loudly proclaimed to defend a pResident that, it turns out, was and is completely untrue in just about everything he says, including the CNN clip.

Holy crap Dmac... 20 comments? Who linked to you?

President Beavis is right.

You know, this does bring to mind an idea. The President is like a bad CEO reporting to a disinterested board--every time they ask him a substantive question, he punts it (uh, accounting is looking into that...) and hopes that they don't remember to ask him again at the next board meeting. And it works for the President because every time he goes out in public, there's a new audience, so he can use the same runaround again.

I think it's time for the Board to start holding him accountable.

Pick one or two questions he doesn't want to deal with--something he should have done but has not. Coming up with a way to enforce the law on contractors is a good one, another good one would be a Katrina-labor issue--things that everyone agrees are politically difficult, but which are substantively important to get resolved.

I think the key is to say, "you've been asked about this before--what have you done since the last time you were asked this question?" If the questioner could work in the word "accountability moment," that would be great.

'He damn well knows the answer' Actually back, hacksaw, I remember reading a presidential directive that specifically holds contractors harmless for whatever they do in iraq. I'm searching around the web for it -I'll post it when I find it.

He doesnt even hide the fact he is clueless, and even makes fun of himself. I'm gonna go all Dr Bill Frist here and diagnose him from this video Terry Schiavo style as being clinically depressed, paranoid/schizophrenia, addictive personality disorder, Grandiose Delusional type.

He looks like he's depressed. He sounds a little medicated. Maybe he needs to be wormed. I'm not a veteranarian or else I'd diagnose him properly based on this video.

was the slurring a video/audio malfunction, or did he really sound like that? Under the influence of something?

yes, he is an idiot, as we all know by now. but more sickening is the sychophantic laugher of the audience. when will they stop finding this asshole cute? Enablers bathing in the banality of evil - U.S.A! U.S.A.!

Kevin - So you think Bush knew there was a law governing DOD contractors in Iraq but elected not to say anything about it in response to the woman's question? What earthly reason would he have to do that?

The fact of the matter is that you have of course offered no evidence of any sort that Bush knows about this law and choose not to discuss it for some also undefined political reasons. I should also note that your other claim regarding diplomatic immunity doesn't make any sense either. Contractors obviously do not have diplomatic immunity since, well, they aren't diplomats.

CAS - I suspect what you are thinking of is limited immunity given to private security contractors executing their duties in Iraq. In other words, if a private security contractor shoots someone while protecting a convoy, they may not be prosecuted. But if some regular contractor, as per Kevin's example, walks up to some random Iraqi and shoots him in the head then that contractor can be prosecuted under this law.

Right after the clip, Bush vertured out into the audience and humped that young woman's leg.

Hey hacksaw, you fucking prick.
Bush lied this Country into war and only a zombie scumbags like yourself "choose not to discuss it for some also undefined political reasons."

How long before people start to realize he's nuts?

Typically the head leaning is someone feeding him a line to use in his answer in his earpiece.

Is this the best they can come up with?

There was a big controversy about this earlier where there was apparent immunity for the contractors over there. I think it came up again on the videos of mercenaries just randomly shooting Iraqi cars on the streets.

Right after the clip Bush lifted his leg and leaked.

"That's... how I work..."

And it's HARD work!

President Beavis???? I think President Butthead is more like it.....

New White House tactic: "Let Bush Be Bush"

LOL!

Rather than some brilliant strategery here, I think Occam's Razor would indicate that the straighforward conclusion is the correct on: G.W. Bush is a moron, as "sharp as marbles".

I didn't watch it. Actually, I can't. I couldn't even watch Michael Moore's film cause I can't stand to look at his face.
I know he's nuts. I don't need any refresher courses.

Jesus, maybe the whole point of this administration is to bring about a religous revival, I've never prayed as much as I have in the last 6 years...who's going to tell him when to nuke Iran? ITMFA, ITMFA, ITMFA, ITMFA...

Michael Moore won the Palm D'Or.

He's not nuts, dude.

YOU are.

Actually you have to feel somewhat sad for him. I mean, Clinton was a slimy weasel you could actually hate. You can't really hate Bush because most of the time you are amazed at the extent of his retardation. LOL!

June 24, 2004
WASHINGTON – The Bush Administration announced today that they plan to extend immunity for U.S. contractors in Iraq past the June 30 handover of sovereignty. This extension would continue our policy of exempting private contractors from Iraqi law. Some would still be bound by U.S. law, but because of a legal loophole many contractors would face no accountability for criminal actions. According to the Washington Post, immunity for U.S. personnel abroad is “among the most contentious in the Islamic world, where it has galvanized public opinion against the United States.”

http://tinyurl.com/je4m7

He reminds me here of a very bad late-night TV host, bombing (sorry) in the opening monologue.

My gosh-- I did mental health case management for kids for a few years. I recognize that look, the look of someone who is feeling really really good-- high on a cocktail of anti-depressants, speed and diet pills. Oh yes, the guy is so tickled by his own idicocy, he's about to come just standing there in front of all those straight people, about to shoot his wad, feeling so darn good about himself. Disgusting.

mparker - way to engage intellectually.

owlbear1 - as I said earlier, the MEJA law originally applied only to DOD contractors. However, I would hasten to add that that law was expanded to include non-DOD contractors working for the federal government in places such as Iraq as part of the FY2005 defense authorization act. In other words, the legal loophole your 2004 article talks about was closed later on that year.

You see, when he doesn't have that tell-tale "bulge in the back", the pathetic moron has to rely upon native intelligence to construct an answer to any question...and this is what native intelligence gets you. As preznit, he makes a second-rate stand-up comedian look positively erudite.

I would say he was acting like a guy who found the questioner so cute he didn't mind she asked him a question he had no idea how to answer.

Had he been a female he would have been giggling and maybe touching hair or flipping it.

I've warned you moonbats before not to be disrespectful of the Commander. Any other comments like this and you will be banned from LGF.

Newtie baby, Bill Clinton retired with some of the highest approval ratings of any 2-term president. He was widely regarded as a very successful president, and still is (even more so now with the contrast of Bush). And he managed this economic and foreign policy success despite having to deal with most of his term with an oppositional congress and a rabid press. (Bush has managed to fail miserably even with a loyal Congress and a craven press.) His approval rating has gone from high to higher since his retirement. When he came to my red-city/red-state to speak, thousands of people waited in line to hear him.

So I'm not sure who it is you're talking about (besides yourself and the Republican base) who "actually hated" Clinton. Most of us-- the American people that is-- liked the guy and would elect him again if we could. (Just check the polls.) Even your namesake, the original Newt Gingrich, came off some joint appearance muttering how he couldn't help but like Clinton... "He seduced me," I think is what he said. (I don't think he meant literally. :)

Face it. Clinton is and was quite popular, except with a vocal and extra-vocal minority-- and the minority that hates Clinton seems to love Bush. No accounting for taste, huh? I do think it'll be interesting seeing what you talk about-- people who don't like either of them. Presumably that means success and failure are irrelevant to those people's valuation. Fortunately, most Americans do prefer a president who gets the right things done the right way, and those of us who fondly remember a burgeoning economy, a respectful world, and jobs aplenty, think Clinton did that just fine.

Dictator Bush is the most dangerous international terrorist on earth. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove need to be tried for treason.

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That is scary. He can't stop laughing. It's not a funny situation at all. He just keeps laughing. Har-de-har. It's scary. This is our president, and he can't discuss a serious matter without laughing compulsively.

Well, forget about "discussing". He's not doing that. "I picked up the phone and said..." He never once even peripherally addresses the issue. Just as well, I guess. If he's going to laugh and laugh, best not have him laughing when he tells us that military contractors can kill at will and it's okay with him.

I just wish HE were a joke.

Tom3, you need to re-read dude's post and figure out who the word "he" is referring to in the context of the first two sentences.

This is shameful. The President of the United States of America acting like he is President of a high school student council.
As if there was any question that this man is incapable of leading the country

What an irrelavant question. It's like asking a CEO what type of badge do contractors wear at a plant that is over seas. Instead of bull sh*ting and offering a lie, Bush comes up with an honest answer.

god help us all

How many assumptions did this first year student make in her question? This has got to be the worst attempt at " let me ask a stupid entrapment question" ever. By the time she was done making assumtions about the situation in a country she probably couldn't locate on a map and asking the question, any normal person would be bored to confusion. This was not a question for the leader of the free world but rather a question she should be asking in class.

My Good God ,three more years of this REPUBLICAN Pres.
Will there be a GOOD OLD USA. after BUSH THE REPUBLICAN.????
Should there be a Republican Party In the coming years ????
I guess every one is to blame that voted for a Republican Congress.. They are going to suffer along with the rest of
people in the USA & the World..

To Hacksaw and the LGF Kool-aid drinkers,

I and others who have commented on this blog remember the law, or rather lack of law for the contractors in Iraq. Why can't Bush? It's his job to know what the hell is going on in Iraq, in his administration, and in Congress.

Either he is lying, or if he forgot, then he is incompetent. I'll let you decide on the answer.

Personally, I think he is lying because it's just too important to forget.

But if he forgot, then it's because chronic, long term alcohol and drug abuse does that to a person.

Either way, it's time for Bush AND dick Cheney (and I do mean dick!) to go.

Impeachment countdown: +/- 300 days!

Posted by: Tom3 at April 10, 2006 04:29 PM

...Clinton was a slimy weasel...
------------------------------------------

But he was only slimy right after being with Monica.

Then Clinton went back to being the best President out of the last three Presidents and the current pResident.

Hacksaw -

How many convictions have been secured under the MEJA for crimes committed in Iraq?

How many MEJA indictments have been filed for crimes against Iraqis?

As far as I know (and I admit that may be wrong) the answer to both questions is zero.

Maybe the law is having the desired deterrent effect, or maybe those contractors are all really upstanding people, or maybe there's something else going on. Let's ask Rummy.

Dear God in Heaven...someone please slap me when this pathetic nightmare of a presidency is over.

God what a moron. The amount of retardation you can see in Bush's face and in his mannerisms is just amazing. LOL! "I am a delegater. And by that I mean, I delegate."

Let Bush be Bush indeed.

Somebody forgot bring his hockey helmet, hand straps and bib. If there is a worse retard around, other than the banjo player from Deliverance, I want to see them. Note:The dumbasses that voted for this inbred neanderthal don't count.

I was there during his entire speech and Q&A, sitting 100 feet away from him. The first-year student mentioned can certainly find Iraq on a map, and I'm also sure she did research before asking her question, which she also asked Rumsfeld when he came to speak, a question Rumsfeld also dodged.

And no, this crowd was very far from sycophantic. Most of us were wearing red protest patches saying very clearly, "We Do Not Support Bush." The students in my section spent most of the time laughing AT him, not with him. Most of his answers were embarrassingly light on substance.

Despite the fact that SAIS was once headed by Wolfowitz, the majority of the student body is liberal (Kerry won a mock election by a landslide in 2004). I'm surprised he came to the school at all - we were very far from being his usual flag-waving screaming fans. At no point in his prepared speech was he even applauded.

The immunity of contractors in Iraq was enshrined in the TAL - the Law of Administration for the State of Iraq for the Tranisitonal Period, passed by the Coalition Provisional Authority (read US administration in Iraq) in March 2004 and applying until an elected Iraqi government chooses to change it. This largely carried over a previous decree issued by the Provisional Authority. The TAL made it the job of the country which engaged the contractors to prosecute them - so in theory they can be prosecuted in the US, or in Iraq if the US waives their immunity ... but who is going to do it?

Well, at least Bush didn't really embarrass the United States by raising his rear paw and scratching for fleas behind his ear.

Ooooh, that's what is hidden under his suit coat, a flea and tick device.

Some people might be annoyed that she asked such a lengthy and leading question but it's a nice change from, "I don't have a question but I support you, Mr. President!"

Doesn't Bush remember what he asked his crony Bremer to do? Here are a few links and excerpts therefrom:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/mariner/20040510.html

To facilitate its outsourcing of the business of war, the Pentagon has extended generous legal protection to civilian contractors in Iraq. Under a June 2003 order of the Coalition Provisional Authority, civilian contractors are protected from prosecution in Iraq for crimes committed as part of their official duties. (The exact, though convoluted, language is: "acts performed by them within their official activities pursuant to the terms and conditions of a contract between a contractor and Coalition Forces or the CPA.")

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jun2004/iraq-j25.shtml

With just a week to go before the supposed “transfer of power” in Iraq, Washington has decided to unilaterally renew a decree granting its troops, as well as private American contractors, complete immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law.

The measure allows the US military as well as hired mercenaries to commit war crimes with impunity, including the killing of civilians, the destruction of homes and property, and the extra-legal detention and torture of prisoners.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5475.htm

US Coalition forces Above the Law, According to the CPA

http://www.americanvoice2004.org/askdave/13askdave.html

Military contractors are not members of the military, therefore they are not subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. They are subject to the laws of the country they operate in, but in Iraq the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) issued an order providing immunity from Iraqi law for actions by contractors or their employees in the course of their official activities.[5] This immunity has been extended under Iraq’s new interim government.[6]

Anyone who supports this monkey should book for a CT scan ASAP. "He knows, he doesn't know", whatever. The guy is a moron, we wuzz robbed, and bushra just doesn't give a shit what we think, what his responsibilities are, and whether he can answer questions OR NOT.

I think he's drinking again.

When Bush's head leans like that, it's cuz Jesus is talking to him. Jesus is telling him "laugh, pant, shrug...it's just a silly question about our war...You're not responsible to know the answer..."

Ya think someone is regretting letting Mr. Personality answer unfiltered questions without a wire in his ear?

Kevin - You claimed that you "and others who have commented on this blog remember the law, or rather lack of law for the contractors in Iraq," but your remarks clearly indicate you did not. Others, like Vierotchka, have pointed out what laws and policies actually existed but you have relied on run-of-the-mill Bush bashing and innaccurate claims of "diplomatic immunity" for contractors.

Vierotchka - your citations, while accurate, are from 2004. In other words from before the time when the law was modified to expand its coverage to non-DOD contractors. In any event, all of the exemptions that you and others have cited are exemptions of US contractors from local Iraqi law. This is what needs to be done when you are operating in a country that has no nation-wide legal system in place. Clinton, for example, followed the same procedures in the Balkans. In fact, the MEJA law was written to close loopholes that contractors took advantage of in Bosnia - including contractors committing murder and running under-age sex rings (the later still a favorite of UN peacekeepers who also typically operate outside of local law). Despite these exemptions, contractors in Iraq still fall under US law.

Having said that, there have been few cases of people being prosecuted - and most of the cases involve financial crimes. On the other hand, outside of the rightly condemned conduct of non-DOD contractors at Abu Ghraib, there has been little indication that contractors in Iraq have been engaged in numerous crimes such are rape or murder that are going unpunished. I'm not saying it has not happened. I am saying that if people are going to claim contractors are running around killing Iraqis without consequences, they ought to provide some basic evidence to support their claim.

Clueless? Are you kidding? He got away without answering the question, didn't he?

If he had answered with the truth, he would have admitted signing an executive order in 2003 in which he declared that NO American - corporation or citizen - could be charged with any crime in Iraq. Total immunity from prosecution. For any crime.

Executive order 13303. Read it and weep for your country.

my dog maggie has more on the ball than that moron! take care to not insult our pets too much! :)

Roooth - did you even read the executive order. Not even the most rabid anti-Bush leftie can honestly claim it meands that "NO American - corporation or citizen - could be charged with any crime in Iraq." In fact, the executive order was written to allow US oil companies to come into Iraq and restart oil production without being sued by Russian, French, or German oil firms that had signed oil development agreements with Saddam.

Now you can argue, if you want, the morality of giving US oil firms this cover. But you cannot honestly argue, as you did, that this executive order gives all Americans in Iraq "total immunity from prosecution. For any crime."

I know Bush-hating is a lot easier if you don't have to think before you speak, but honest debate suffers mightily as a result.

Hacksaw,

The Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act of 2000

One possible problem with application of MEJA to crimes committed in Abu Ghraib and other U.S. detention centers in Iraq or elsewhere is that it does not extend to members of, or contractors to, non-military agencies such as the CIA. Only those working with or accompanying the U.S. military are covered by MEJA.

The War Crimes Act of 1996
(It does not apply to non-citizens or nationals of the United States.)

The Torture Act of 2000
Most non-U.S. nationals fall outside the jurisdiction of the Torture Act, since it only applies to suspected torturers who are U.S. nationals....

Because this has been a major on-going issue, it is one with which the President should be acquainted. He should not simply giggle and say it is an interesting question. At the very least he should acknowledge concern for the issue. Have we learned nothing? There are clear holes in the laws you cite. And certainly enforcement has been anything if unspectacular.

To compare the President to those who themselves cannot answer the question is not quite fair.

While I do sympathize with your disdain at the level of some comments, I think discussion would be better served if did more than simple link the website.

Stormy - fair point, however MEJA was amended in the FY2005 Defense Authorization Act to include non-DOD contracts, a point I raised earlier. This was done specifically in response to the loophole exposed by the Abu Ghraib contractors.

And there is not doubt that Bush could have given a more politically astute reply than "interesting question." I'm not sure he would need to know MEJA any more that you or I would need to know the specific number of the form for any of our personnel policies at work. But a more eloquent person would certainlu have found some way to discuss the broader point (holding all contractors accountable) even if they didn't know the specific legal framework they fell under.

My whole point in jumping in on this was that the original claim that "[Bush]damn well knows the answer, there is no law for U.S. contractors!" was simply not accurate and criticizing Bush for covering up this "fact" was simply unfair.

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Title 3—
The President
Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003
Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other
Property in Which Iraq Has an Interest
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency
Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the
National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), section 5 of the United
Nations Participation Act, as amended (22 U.S.C. 287c) (UNPA), and section
301 of title 3, United States Code,
I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that
the threat of attachment or other judicial process against the Development
Fund for Iraq, Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein,
and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatso-
ever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests
therein, obstructs the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and
maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development
of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq. This situation
constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security
and foreign policy of the United States and I hereby declare a national
emergency to deal with that threat.
I hereby order:
Section 1. Unless licensed or otherwise authorized pursuant to this order,
any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other
judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void, with
respect to the following:
(a) the Development Fund for Iraq, and
(b) all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein,
and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatso-
ever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests
therein, in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest,
that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States,
or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United
States persons.
Sec. 2. (a) As of the effective date of this order, Executive Order 12722
of August 2, 1990, Executive Order 12724 of August 9, 1990, and Executive
Order 13290 of March 20, 2003, shall not apply to the property and interests
in property described in section 1 of this order.
(b) Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness
of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses or other forms of administrative
action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under
Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290, or under the authority of IEEPA
or the UNPA, except as hereafter terminated, modified, or suspended by
the issuing Federal agency and except as provided in section 2(a) of this
order.
Sec. 3. For the purposes of this order:
(a) The term ‘‘person’’ means an individual or entity;
(b) The term ‘‘entity’’ means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture,
corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization;
(c) The term ‘‘United States person’’ means any United States citizen,
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States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign
branches), or any person in the United States;
(d) The term ‘‘Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products’’ means any petro-
leum, petroleum products, or natural gas originating in Iraq, including any
Iraqi-origin oil inventories, wherever located; and
(e) The term ‘‘Development Fund for Iraq’’ means the fund established
on or about May 22, 2003, on the books of the Central Bank of Iraq,
by the Administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority responsible for
the temporary governance of Iraq and all accounts held for the fund or
for the Central Bank of Iraq in the name of the fund.
Sec. 4. (a) The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary
of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such
actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ
all powers granted to the President by IEEPA and the UNPA as may be
necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the
Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies
of the United States Government. All agencies of the United States Govern-
ment are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their statu-
tory authority to carry out the provisions of this order.
(b) Nothing contained in this order shall relieve a person from any require-
ment to obtain a license or other authorization in compliance with applicable
laws and regulations.
Sec. 5. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit,
or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by
a party against the United States, its departments, agencies, entities, officers,
employees, or agents, or any other person.
Sec. 6. This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published in
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It was a horribly worded question. And given the fact that a lot of these Q & A sessions are screened, I can't believe that someone actually let her set him up to look so stupid.

On the other hand, the fact that he walked right into it and acted so unbelieveably juvenile as to not only interrupt her, but then to laugh through half the quesiton just confirms the fact that we have an idiot that is portrayed as the "leader" of this nation.

If it were any other country that has the abiilty to enforce their own laws our soldiers would be subject to U.S. laws while on OUR miliary bases. The second they step one inch off the base they are subject to the laws and regulations of that country.

What the girl seemed to be trying to ask is that if we are going to enforce a code of justice for our soldiers over there because Iraq doesn't have the capability to enforce their own laws, then shouldn't we extend that same code to the contractors? They are all part of the "force" we are sending to "aid" the country. And if we aren't going to hold the contractors to the same code as our military, what makes the contractors so special?

Hacksaw: "In fact, the executive order was written to allow US oil companies to come into Iraq and restart oil production without being sued by Russian, French, or German oil firms that had signed oil development agreements with Saddam."

Excuse me, but what right did he have to allow US companies to come into Iraq and do anything? Oh yeah, because he declared it to be so.

I know you love Bush and therefore, ipso facto, you must be one slow mofo, but don't you get it? They planned it just the way they did it. They wanted the oil and for Iraq's economy to be based on the dollar. So they made up bullshit, started a war, and took what they wanted. Those executive orders are just one more proof of their blatent intent to start a war for profit.

And I did read the executive order, Hacksaw. All of it. I also read the other executive orders that completed the rape of Iraq. I read how Bush declared a National Emergency here in the US in May '03 so that he could declare all of the oil in Iraq part of the US Treasury. I read how he declared all contracts between any country and Iraq null and void so that he could distribute Iraq's oil and infrastructure contracts out to his donors like so much Halloween candy. I read how he declared freedom from prosecution for any American in Iraq.

And everything that he set up in those executive orders has played out just the way he set it up. Iraq's resources were taken over by American corporations, now the big oil companies are enjoying obscene profits and we're paying almost $3.00/gal. and the Iraqi's are worse off than ever.

We have built permanent bases in Iraq now, we aren't going anywhere as long as there is a drop of oil and a Republican in charge. The Iraqis can blow themselves and American troops up all they like, as long as there is money to be made, our troops are expendable.

I only have these questions for anyone still defending Bush: What will it take? What more do you need? Would it be just too embarassing at this point to admit how wrong you've been?

The truly sad part of dealing with the dwindling few of you out there still clinging to the illusion that Bush is a great leader is how you all just seemed to skip right over the minor fact that you let Bush divert your attention to Iraq while the people responsible for 9/11 - the Saudis - are more welcome in the White House than you will ever be. Where's Osama? Oh yeah, Bush doesn't care anymore. Osama and his financiers got away with 9/11 and you Bush-lovers haven't even noticed. You spend all your energy on blogs defending Bush without ever wondering why the might of the US got side-tracked in an oil rich country that was never a threat to us and the people responsible for 9/11 are as free as ever and way more popular than Bush.

Hacksaw, if you're still thinking this war has anything to do with 9/11 or bringing democracy anywhere, I'm sorry, but you're terminally stupid. I don't say that to be insulting. I say it because I mean it. Wake up.

Did anyone see Joe Biden the other night on Bill Mahr? He has been the first person to really explain how screwed we are. This is our Vietnam and it's sad. How can he stand there and even laugh about anything having to do with Iraq? This war is absolutely disgusting and for him to to work up a smirk let alone pant and laugh. He should be in constant mourning for what he has done. I freaked for months after a kid I didn't know in my neighborhood was shot. Bush seems ok with thousands of Americans and Iraqis being murdered. Every time I hear anything about Iraq I want to puke. This war will go on long after this moron leaves office. Christian puppet, laughing as Rome burns...jacka*s!

Did anyone see Joe Biden the other night on Bill Mahr? He has been the first person to really explain how screwed we are. This is our Vietnam and it's sad. How can he stand there and even laugh about anything having to do with Iraq? This war is absolutely disgusting and for him to to work up a smirk let alone pant and laugh. He should be in constant mourning for what he has done. I freaked for months after a kid I didn't know in my neighborhood was shot. Bush seems ok with thousands of Americans and Iraqis being murdered. Every time I hear anything about Iraq I want to puke. This war will go on long after this moron leaves office. Christian puppet, laughing as Rome burns...jacka*s!

Hacksaw,
Thanks for elevating the debate. My wife and I are thoroughly underwhelmed with the entire Bush administration and practically everything that has unfolded since its inception. Thas said, I don't have any salient comments to add to this debate but I want to acknowledge you for sticking to hard facts and for (eventually) being humble enough to acknowledge to Stormy that yes, Bush is ineloquent at best. Without your insistence on real debate here this Bush bashing would have been like so much cotton candy - delicious but not nutritious.
Cheers

God help us. This really proves that God is not on our side. If he was then he would not have given us a moron (my apology to the mentally challenged) for a prez.

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